angels ??

[andy]

hey this is like new to me and i find it hard to come to terms with cos for a lot of da freinds I have they like take angel things so literally and i read on ere and think they have been told wrong and is dis because people try and make money out of angels , like the catholic church and If you wouldn't mind sharing, what are your thoughts, beliefs, or experiences regarding angelic beings?

andy

[STORMDANCER]

Ah see my hermetic bits kick in here. I believe in and have experience of the full angelic realm I guess...and it's not exactly the way some people are popularly portraying it at the minute though money making schemes.

I must admit that this is another soapbox issue for me - I really detest when a person not fully conversant with a broad topic decides it's time to make money out of it, and then disseminates a load of rubbish which is marketed in such a fashion that it begins to assume a certain "validity" that tricks early seekers into believing a load of commercial codswallop.

The most extensive and reliable investigation of the angelic realm was begun by John Dee back in the reign of Queen Elizabeth 1st in the 1500's. His research, widely available these days, forms the basis of Enochian magick, which relies on the Enochian language. I would vigorously recommend anybody who truly wishes to explore the angelic realm to aim themselves in that direction rather than the more recent pop publications written with great authority by individuals who are just babes in the study themselves.

Our Paul is a great teacher here and knows his stuff lets hope people abused by money making schemes will end up here where they will find truth and light!

*Climbs carefully down off soapbox*

storm ;D

[paulmurdoch1975]

have you read the celestine prophecy i had it but ive mislayed it it tells you of things that the catholic church tried to hide a very good book to read find it and have a read andy .
anyway the catholic church is one of the ritchest organisations out there and realy all they go on is the book that some man wrote which they now call as gospal just my beliefs just like jesus was only a healer a very gifted healer not a son of god i feel theres a conspiracy behind it all as in the divinchy code its stated that his mum was cleopatra if i recal right .
i dont claim to know it all all i can say is i have been showed by angels and have also been saved from danger mum has also had her fair shair hsnt she andy but at the end of the day its up to you .
think to yourself why have these feathers come to me have you been wodering for a good while now its a sighn you have been chosen to be awakend and finaly start your true path

[paulmurdoch1975]

Animism ~ Daimon ~ Zoroastrianism ~ Christianity

Animism
Before Angels, there was Animism which is believed to be the original religion of humankind. It's belief was that spirits such as nature spirits, fairies, sprites, devas, elves and other elementals inhabit all things. It still exists today in many tribal societies and the belief is growing among people in Western societies.

Daimons
When people needed a strong presence to watch over them, they turned to gods, goddesses, ancestors and great spirit entities. Like Angels, they were charged to maintain harmony in the universe and serve as messengers between heaven and earth. In the polytheistic religions, such as the religion of the ancient Greeks, the people worshipped a pantheon of male and female deities.
The Greeks also believed in personal guardian spirits, known as their daimons. This was an inferior deity or attending spirit and was assigned to each person. The Romans called it their genius. Plato and Socrates were two great philosophers who were inspired by their daimons. The daimon was very much like our guardian Angels except for the fact that a daimon could be classified as benevolent or malevolent, where as in the Christian belief, we have guardian Angels and demons.

Zoroastrianism
Angels as we understand them in Western Christian society had their origins in the ancient Persian religion of Zoroastrianism, an ancient religion during the Persian empires (559 BC to 651 AC) and was the most powerful world religion at the time of Jesus Christ. It is one of the oldest monotheist religions and you can still find it being practiced today, especially in Iran and India.

Christianity
Angels were embraced by Christianity like no religion before it, but the love of Angels came from the people and not the church fathers. In the Middle Ages, there was an "Angel mania" with countless sightings of Angels and saints. At this time there was a great acceptance of the idea of “visions”, especially in England and France. People obsessed by Angels would have countless visions of Angels appearing to them and giving them advice. But people soon became disillusioned by all the sightings along with the false sightings reported.
Today in the Christian countries of the West, people are again becoming more conscious of Angels. They are exploring their spirituality and questioning beliefs they were raised with. They are turning to a more loving and accepting concept of religion and the thought of a "Higher Being" or "Light" that watches over us all, regardless of religion or beliefs.

Many religions believe in Angels - Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam all have their Angels and hierarchy. Although I acknowledge the Angels from all the religions, focus will on the Judeo-Christian Angels and the Dionysius Hierarchy of Angels.