Abortion.

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I'm not sure if this is the right place for this topic but it can be moved.

This is a very controversial topic,how do you feel about abortion?
Is abortion murder? and if it is murder at what age is the fetus called a baby? I do realize there are many different circumstances each one so different to the other.I mean if a woman has been raped and got pregnant,what does she do do,can she be strong enough to keep the baby looking at it every day and remembering what happened?

I believe every woman has the right to make her own decision about keeping her baby or not but what really REALLY angers me are these girls,so irresponsible,uncaring and bloody stupid who use abortion as a form of contraception,if I could I would sterilize these woman they dont deserve kids ever.I may get alot of stick for that comment but I would like to know your thoughts about abortion.

Love suzy

[STORMDANCER]

A great topic and one that will get a big discussion going I am sure.

For me it is something that can only be decided by the person who is going through this sad time. Many many young kids are not given stable homes and taught the values of life etc these days and when they are allowed out at night till all hours etc you wonder how they can even begin to think like an adult in an adult environment when they are still children.

I am afraid I put a lot of blame on the parents and how they have raised their kids and what they allow them to do. So say a young girl gets pregnant? Who is to blame? The child for being allowed to divulge in things far above her years or the parents that allow it?

So when a young girl gets pregnant we must understand that our views are only our own and we can say what we think but we are all individuals and this girl has her own mind and her own thoughts etc. She must decide what she thinks is best and what ever it is the consequences will stay with her for life either way. Its not an easy choice.

I think that birth control maybe one day should be made compulsory for under a certain age. I certainly will take my daughter and watch the injection go into her bum so I know she is safe lol…but we then have the issue of safe sex? That to me is even more dangerous then pregnancies as it will ruin a life and future babies permanently.

These are just my views! What does everyone else think?

Peace and Love

Storm xxxxx

[chilledzee]

Good evening, Suzyqueen & I hope this finds you well.

Well, a very debatable topic indeed. My personal feelings are that we can be too quick, at times, to be judgemental of those girls/women who have an abortion. Individual circumstances can dictate the final decision, they have made...albeit whether we agree, with them, or not. On the darker side, they may have been raped, or have some underlying health condition which may put the life of.. both themself, and/or child, at risk. On a personal experience, though, I knew this girl who partook in unprotected sex & yes, fell pregnant. She got an abortion & when I asked her 'why?' her reply was simple... "I'm not ready to have children". Now that, to me, was a very selfish act, on her behalf. It's not as if contraception was & still is difficult to get.. for a man OR a woman..it does take two to tango! Let's not forget, also, the infections..HIV.. etc, that can be transmitted to others through unprotected sex.
I'm not saying I condone abortion, however I do like to base my opinions after hearing the full story/background of individual cases. Education, parenting & also.. the 'benefit' system should share the blame & not all fingers pointed at the...expectant mother.

Hugs

Chilledzee xxx

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I agree with both of you,there are so many different circumstances,many decisions to decide whether to keep an baby thats come as a surprise.
Some woman get raped,others have their contraception fail,some have medical reasons for having to have their baby taken away and I would never judge anyone.
I am angry because I'm talking about a 24 y/o woman who has had 2 abortions in 8 weeks,this makes me so frustrated,I mean everyone can make a mistake,even though this is a big mistake but to use abortion as contraception to me is outrageous.I have argued with this woman and shes said its only a blob and a few cells,its not a baby.At how many weeks would you say it is a baby? to me the minute it arrives in the womb its a baby,with its own soul and spirit.

love suzy

[chilledzee]

aahh... I totally agree with you on this particular case. I also have questions...where was the 'follow up' treatment after her first abortion? Medical advice? Counselling? This is one debate that has been going on for many many years & sadly, I feel, will continue for many more. There is an interesting debate on 'Pro-life'/'Pro-choice' on the internet & it also gives facts..not myths.. re the medical side of this. I have to be honest & say I would be more inclined to listen & talk, to the said girl... Has she got or had support from friends/family? She will have been affected, emotionally & physically, although others may not see this due to her initial 'shrug of the shoulders' response to being questioned.
Guidance, support & education may be all that's required. If anyone can get close enough to her, a condom slipped into her pocket might help too.....

Hugs

Chilledzee xxxx

[THE GREAT OZ]

I also believe this act of abortion is a question to be asked to the individual their self. I really can't say even if I am pro or con. On one hand you have so many people now who want children and some of these unwanted children could be adopted.

Then on the other hand you have a woman who may be pregnant from a rapist. Sorry to go to one extreme to the other, but these are just two of a gazillion questions I think about and still wont know which way to go unless it happened to me.

The idea of when it becomes a human life, well, the moment the sperm is release and fertilizes the egg a life is began. This is only my opinion. A lot of other different opinions are out there also.

I honestly can't say how I would take on this unless it was me.

Bless...OZ

[marianne 50]

when i was 17, i got pregnant despite being on the pill. i wanted to keep the baby, but being a minor i had no say in it, my mother forced me to have an abortion. while the doctor did it i got my first panic attack and no specialist has been able to help me with the depression and anxiety i have ever since. i am 52 now and still upset about the whole story, i even am in a dutch group ( i am belgian) which is called " cry for life " , they help me getting a bit of peace. believe me , it is a scar and burden for life ! xxx marianne

[sunshine]

A very touchy subject indeed, i myself went through an abortion many years ago due to circumstances i don't really wish to discuss, but abortion was the end result, unfortunately mine went wrong and i had complications and let me tell you it's haunted me ever since, i often question if i did the right thing, i would say to any women thinking about it if you choose to go down that road it's always going to remain with you and it does affect you for the rest of your life, are you strong enough to cope with it
I think in this day and age abortion is more accepted and is more common, but i wholeheartedly disagree with women who have multiple abortions, personally i think that is just damn right cruel and irresponsible, there are so many forms of contraception which are so easily available, there's no excuse.
It's also terrible for the man because ultimately the women as the final say, last year a really close male friend of mine was in bits because his girlfriend aborted their baby and he really wanted to keep it, he even offered to bring the child up himself if she didn't want it, he was heartbroken, but what can you do.
It's such an emotive issue and always will be, and at the end of the day is down to the person in question as to which decision is taken be it moral or not in the eyes of others.
Marianne, sending you lots of love and big hug xxxxxxxx
Love to you,
Sunshine xxx

[marianne 50]

thank you sunshine , moving story you told us , hugs for you too xxxx